Hate breeds hate – Keep the EDL out of Grimsby

Hate breeds hate.

Teens arrested after attack on Grimsby Mosque.

Why has this happened?

It has happened because people have, without any rational thought or consideration, violently reacted to the brutal murder of an innocent man in London.

Guess how many of the people who worship at that Mosque in Grimsby had anything to do with the two violent killers who took an innocent life?

You guessed it. None of them.

Tomorrow the English Defence League, or as many know them, that bunch of racist thugs, are taking to the streets of Grimsby to protest against…er…who knows?

Maybe people with different colour skin?

Maybe people who believe in a God that they don’t?

Maybe, they just love a beer fuelled fight?

Some argue they are fighting because of an attack on ‘the Christian country of England’…when did they last go to Church? If they did, they would find a preacher in the pulpit who utterly condemned them for their violent retribution against innocent people.

I lived in Grimsby for 17 years before I moved to London. It was my home, it is where I was educated, it is where a lot of my family live.

I do not condone mindless violence, I do not condone it in Grimsby, I do not condone it anywhere.

I find it absolutely devastating that some people from the town I called home have chosen the path of violence and ignorance. I am shocked and appalled that it is happening in a community like Grimsby.

For all of its fault I have been for many years a fierce defender of my roots and of the community that helped guide me to where I am today.

I am sure it will come as no surprise to so many but…

BREAKING NEWS: Muslims do not hate the English, the British, or indeed anything about the country.

BREAKING NEWS: Extremists bastards do horrible things all over the world. The devastating murder in Woolwich was done by individual bastards in no one’s name.

Some news stories from recent weeks that have received little attention from the ‘people who think Muslims hate us’.

75 year old man hacked to death in the street by a white man in a racially motivated attack.

The High Court (in England) has ruled that we haven’t looked into countless cases of abuse by soldiers in Iraq. The Ministry of Defence has ever set up the Iraq Historical Allegations Team to deal with the claims.

I have posted several videos on my Facebook page today including ‘Meet a Muslim person’ and an Iman condemning the murder in Woolwich. Sadly, they won’t have been watched by the absolute ignorant fools who will take to the streets tomorrow in Grimsby.

I do not want the town that for so many years I called home tarnished by these thugs.

If you want to rebel against hate crimes, do something constructive like donate to charity or help your neighbours, do not allow hate in our communities.

I call on the Grimsby Telegraph not to give them the air time and media coverage they crave. Please. For the sake of the community. Do not do it. By sharing hate for the sake of sales, you are breeding hate.

I copied the below comments from the Grimsby Telegraph website at 8.45 pm 24/5/13. They were taken from the Teens arrested after attack on Grimsby Mosque story.

by sgbarker

Friday, May 24 2013, 7:21PM

“if you didn’t like our country or the west why do they stay here go to a muslim country”

by ganemede

Friday, May 24 2013, 7:14PM

“The purpose of the term “racist” is to end any form of reason or debate and to put the opponent on the defensive, whereby instead of sensibly talking about public money being squandered on single Nigerian immigrant mothers with no working skills and 5 children, it is supposed to end with you explaining how you are not biased against her based on her colour. It is futile to bother arguing when someone uses that word.

We are told again and again by “experts” and “talking heads” that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unquantified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is, that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars world wide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. The hard quantifiable fact is, that the “peaceful majority” is the “silent majority” and it is cowed and extraneous.”

by bluedog

Friday, May 24 2013, 7:05PM

“A case of the media a making the news instead of reporting the news”

by eddie39

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:55PM

“You could argue this group were expressing their feelings at the moment heightened by what has happened in Woolwich, i’m feeling the same with as much anger. Other groups like and are allowed to rant on British streets suggesting harm to non- believers of Islam. They like to preach constant hatred and get away with it. And yet if anyone so much as says boo to a Muslim they face arrest and prosecution. It seems to me we are expected to continually take take take. It’s about time that the muslim communities in this country not just roundly condemn these sort of actions but actually root it out and show the rest of us that they truly want to integrate with the rest of us living side by side and not against everything we stand for.”

by psychodame66

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:51PM

“Best decision I ever made at the beginning of the year was to move away from Grimsby especially when you get brain dead comments like this one and I quote ” “put all Islamic nutters on a plane and send them to a muslim country see how they get on there” Makes me sick to stomach to think that I once lived amongst brain dead racist’s and bigots.Also makes my blood boil when a sentence start’s “I’m not a rasist but……
Go and join the EDL or the BNP party with the rest of the morons I’m sure you will feel at home”

by ganemede

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:48PM

“I think what ALLENGY, was trying to say was, not all muslims are suicide bombers, but all suicide bombers ARE muslim, fact,

What about these verses from the Qur’an,They are the direct word of God about which ‘there can be no doubt’ as the Moslem Holy Book itself says: .
(Surah 48:29) ‘Muhammed is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another’.

(Surah 9:123) ‘Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.’

(Surah 9:73) ‘Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.’

(Surah 5:33) “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides…”
(Surah 8:12) ‘ I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
This is the religion of peace and tolerance………..My A%se”

by Jasbee

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:34PM

“When you see that terrible murder of a soldier in Woolwich. you can easily understand a few young kids drinking too much, and going on a rampage.”

by shadowtek

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:32PM

“Allengy . I remember the IRA setting bombs off in the uk. Did i miss somthing thought they were mostly catholics .
Its nutters using religion not religion using nutters”

by des22

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:28PM

“AllanGY – perhaps you should mention your theory to the Real IRA sometime.

The ironic thing about these hooligans is that they are just as likely to damage a synagogue as a mosque. What they were doing was simple nasty vandalism using Woolwich as an excuse.”

by plumduff10

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:26PM

“by AllanGYFriday, May 24 2013, 6:49PM
“What people don`t seem to understand is, not every muslim is a terrorist ,but every terrorist is a muslim, enough said.”

EVERY terrorist ? IRA are Muslim? Basque Seperatists are Muslim? What a stereotypical statement!”

by sgbarker

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:16PM

“put all Islamic nutters on a plane and send them to a muslim country see how they get on there”

by sgbarker

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:11PM

“beware the enemy within”

by ozzyosbourne

Friday, May 24 2013, 6:05PM

“The mosque is in Weelsby Road not Legsby Avenue, get it right telegraph.”

by AllanGY

Friday, May 24 2013, 5:49PM

“What people don`t seem to understand is, not every muslim is a terrorist ,but every terrorist is a muslim, enough said.”

by bikerider1

Friday, May 24 2013, 5:37PM

“”Ello ello ello….What’s going on ere then…..Legsby Avenue….””

by notworthit

Friday, May 24 2013, 4:20PM

“It was reported some time ago that the security services are watching 2,000 extremists. Given that these are only the worst KNOWN cases – life is obviously going to see more of these atrocities unless action is taken to curb extremism.”

by porcelainblak

Friday, May 24 2013, 4:20PM

“We need a change in the law so we can name and shame these obnoxious little oiks!

They’re probably the ones who spend their time whining and bleating that “Nobody treats us like adults”! Er, hello, THIS is the reason, because you behave like silly children and also in the eyes of the law you ARE a child until you’re 18.

If you get arrested at any age you should all be named, we’ll all apologise to you later if you subsequently go to court and are proved innocent!”

by shadowtek

Friday, May 24 2013, 4:12PM

“A nut job of one faith commits a terrible act and people attack others of same faith and places of worship of that faith. Yet when another nutjob commits a terrible act from a different faith no one goes out and attacks people of that faith or smash windows in the local church.
Its not the faith that causes the problems but the nutters using the faith they belive in as an excuse. This is across a lots of faiths. I believe there are many sects in the muslim faith like there is in Christianity. Catholic ,Protestant,Anglican,Presbyterian the list goes on. These people are nut jobs and extreamists and not your every day person who believes in the faith that they follow.”

by porcelainblak

Friday, May 24 2013, 4:10PM

“We need a change in the law so we can name and shame these obnoxious little oiks!

They’re probably the ones who spend their time whining and bleating that “Nobody treats us like adults”! Er, hello, THIS is the reason, because you behave like silly children and also in the eyes of the law you ARE a child until you’re 18.

If you get arrested at any age you should all be named, we’ll all apologise to you later if you subsequently go to court and are proved innocent!”

by onowotono

Friday, May 24 2013, 4:01PM

“Lashbaby you should be careful with your off the cuff comments and I hope that you weren’t trying to cause alarm when you wrote:

“Stupid children need to be educated that 99.9% of muslims are tolerant peaceful people.”

According to the Muslim Council of Britain

In 2002 the Muslim population was 1.8 million (3% of total British population).

http://tinyurl.com/pd3khjv

You’re saying 99.9% of Muslims are tolerant peaceful people then presumably 0.1 are not and 0.1% of 1,800,000 is 1,800.

Please don’t give the impression that there may be 1,800 intolerant and non peaceful Muslims roaming around as it could cause alarm and you should perhaps revise your figures.”

by notworthit

Friday, May 24 2013, 3:59PM

“Tolerant, peaceful people ? Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt … Need I go any further around the globe ? Stonings, beheadings, mutilations, honour killings, arranged marriages, women as second class citizens, halal meat …. Need I go any further ? Muslims are only tolerant, peaceful people when they are in the minority, when they are in the majority it is time to go to the airport.
That said attacking a mosque, if true, was a senseless act in a civilised society but what do you do when you face frustration at how your government deals with people within that clearly hate us. You get angry of course and when you are young you don’t make the best choices in how you express your anger.”

by Peace_man

Friday, May 24 2013, 3:38PM

“Attacked for racial reasons? Is Islam now a race? There was me thinking it was a religion!

A hypocritical, sexist, violent, confrontational, non compromising, prejudice one but a religion none the less. Which refuses to “really” denounce the hate filled preachers that disrespect their sacred book for their own gain.

Out of curiosity lashbaby just how many Muslims do you know or indeed how many Islamic countries have you visited, seems your our resident expert, I wonder……”

by Scartho88

Friday, May 24 2013, 3:32PM

“It shouldn’t be there!!”

by WhistlingD

Friday, May 24 2013, 3:25PM

“How thick can you get…”

by lashbaby

Friday, May 24 2013, 3:23PM

“Stupid children need to be educated that 99.9% of muslims are tolerant peaceful people. It is a shame that percentage of us born in Grimsby cannot make that claim.”

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